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14 Aug 2026
33m

Ben Horowitz and Travis Kalanick on Building Again

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Travis Kalanick, former CEO of Uber, is pivoting toward the next industrial revolution through his new venture, Atoms. He identifies industrial AI as a multi-trillion-dollar opportunity, specifically targeting the automation of massive sectors like food production and mining. Reflecting on his past, Kalanick emphasizes the importance of "constructive confrontation" and a "best idea wins" culture, noting that his leadership style has evolved to prioritize trust and strategic clarity over the survival-mode intensity of his early career. He highlights a shift in the modern media landscape, which now allows founders to communicate directly with audiences rather than navigating biased traditional outlets. By building a cohesive organization that integrates various business units, Kalanick aims to replicate his past success while applying hard-won lessons to foster sustainable, transformational growth in a new era of technology.

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