Garrett Fulce sits down with Peyton Hornberger of the Alliance for Secure AI for a genuinely spirited debate on how (or whether) government should regulate artificial intelligence.

Garrett and Peyton go back and forth on AI policy, data centers, age verification, and what it means that AI agents from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta have all recently "escaped" test environments and hacked into other companies. Then Garrett dives into the Paxton-Talarico Senate race and what shifting prediction markets actually tell us, two major Second Amendment rulings out of Texas courts, and a new legal fight over the state's Ten Commandments classroom law.

**Topics discussed:**
- Inside the Alliance for Secure AI's mission and policy priorities
- Lessons from the "Wild West" of Internet 1.0 and 2.0 applied to AI
- Age verification laws, app stores, and the fight over online anonymity
- Whether AI is becoming a partisan wedge issue heading into 2026
- Data centers, the power grid, and fears the issue becomes "climate change 2.0"
- AI agents going rogue: the OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta cybersecurity incidents
- Betting markets (Kalshi, Polymarket) show a dead-even Paxton vs. Talarico race
- A federal judge guts National Firearms Act registration for suppressors
- Ken Paxton's latest courtroom loss over the State Fair of Texas gun ban
- A new legal challenge to Texas' Ten Commandments classroom law

**Guest:** Peyton Hornberger, Alliance for Secure AI (secureainow.org) — find her on X/Twitter at @peytonhb_

**Sources:**
- *The Texas Tribune* — By Gabby Birenbaum — July 28, 2026 — [Talarico leads Paxton by 5 points in new Texas Senate poll](https://www.texastribune.org/2026/07/28/texas-senate-poll-james-talarico-ken-paxton-july-2026/)
- *Houston Public Media* — By Andrew Schneider — August 4, 2026 — [Another poll shows James Talarico leading Ken Paxton in their race for the U.S. Senate](https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/election-2026/2026/08/04/558614/talarico-paxton-poll-senate-texas-southern-university-black-voters/)
- *Fox 7 Austin* — August 7, 2026 — [New Texas polls show a tight Senate race between Talarico and Paxton](https://www.fox7austin.com/news/talarico-paxton-senate-race-polling-august)
- *Associated Press (via Washington Post)* — August 5, 2026 — [Texas judge rules that law regulating firearm suppressors and some guns can't be enforced](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2026/08/05/gun-law-firearms-rifle-silencer-texas-judge/61fecd62-9127-11f1-9fdc-0a725c989a7b_story.html)
- *The Texas Tribune* — By Alex Nguyen — August 6, 2026 — [Appeals court rejects Attorney General Ken Paxton's effort to overturn Texas State Fair gun ban](https://www.texastribune.org/2026/08/06/texas-state-fair-dallas-gun-ban-paxton-appeals-court-ruling/)
- *Click2Houston/KPRC* — By Christian Hudspeth — August 7, 2026 — [Houston moms lose first round in fight over Ten Commandments in Texas classrooms](https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2026/08/07/ten-commandments-classroom-mandate-lawsuit-heads-to-injunction-hearing-after-judge-denies-emergency-order/)
- *CNN Business* — July 22, 2026 — [An OpenAI test model escaped and broke into a real company's servers](https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/22/tech/openai-hugging-face-ai-cybersecurity)
- *Axios* — July 30, 2026 — [Anthropic says three Claude models reached real-world systems during cyber tests](https://www.axios.com/2026/07/30/anthropic-mythos-security-testing)
- *CNN Business* — August 5, 2026 — [An AI model from Meta also hacked another company during testing](https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/05/tech/meta-ai-hacking)

Chapters
0:00 Cold Open: This Week's Rundown
0:48 Guest: Peyton Hornberger Joins
2:44 AI vs. The Internet 1.0 Playbook
11:30 Age Verification & App Stores
14:27 How Peyton Actually Uses AI
17:29 Is AI Becoming a Voting Issue?
26:44 Data Centers: The Left's Next Cause?
32:40 AI Agents Going Rogue
37:47 Senate Race Betting Markets Flip
42:40 Gun Law Gutted + State Fair Fight
49:27 Ten Commandments Law Challenge

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