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24 Jul 2026
14m

How to get past the "messy middle" of a big change | Mary Martin

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The "messy middle" represents the inevitable, challenging phase of any ambitious transformation where progress stalls and frustration mounts. Rather than a signal to abandon goals, this period confirms that a project is sufficiently bold and moving in the right direction. Successfully navigating this stage requires identifying "glimmers of progress"—small, tangible indicators that maintain momentum when the final objective remains out of sight. These glimmers manifest through improved operational metrics, such as AI-driven efficiency gains in fast-food service; enhanced team collaboration, exemplified by empowering employees to voice concerns; and personal leadership evolution, where shifting from a defensive stance to a collaborative approach fosters organizational buy-in. Celebrating these incremental wins provides the necessary energy to sustain long-term efforts, ultimately ensuring that the initial vision reaches fruition despite the difficulties encountered along the way.

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