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22 Jul 2026
1h 32m

Travis Kalanick Is Back | Building the Future of Industrial AI

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The a16z Show

Travis Kalanick, former Uber CEO, and a16z partner Ben Horowitz analyze the evolution of building companies in the physical world, moving from the lessons learned at Uber to Kalanick’s new venture, Atoms. The conversation centers on the concept of "industrial AI," where software frameworks—CPU, storage, and network—are applied to physical infrastructure like food manufacturing, mining, and logistics. By treating physical assets as "atoms-based computers," Kalanick aims to drive efficiency and safety in industries previously resistant to automation. The discussion highlights the strategic necessity of building in stealth to prioritize internal execution over external validation, and the rare, non-fungible role of the founder in scaling complex, multi-industry conglomerates. This partnership marks a long-awaited alignment between Kalanick’s operational ferocity and a16z’s investment focus on rare, high-impact entrepreneurs capable of transforming entire industries.

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