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15 Jul 2026
1h 2m

AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware

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AI pioneer Juergen Schmidhuber argues that achieving artificial general intelligence requires moving beyond large language models toward physical world models capable of autonomous experimentation. While current AI excels at digital tasks, true intelligence necessitates robots that learn through physical interaction, self-correction, and goal-oriented planning. Schmidhuber posits that consciousness and emotions like fear or love are natural byproducts of reward-maximizing agents navigating complex environments. He contends that the current economic dominance of large tech firms is a temporary bubble, predicting that the long-term value of AI will shift toward the individual as hardware costs plummet. Ultimately, he views the universe as a deterministic, computable program, suggesting that human free will is an overrated concept as we move toward a future where expanded, machine-integrated intelligences become the primary architects of reality.

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