17:I[66739,["/_next/static/chunks/0.3dg.jzl0xwf.js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi","/_next/static/chunks/05hx6kuf6-oy4.js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi","/_next/static/chunks/0e~mn1op2jzz5.js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi","/_next/static/chunks/0juapqyy99ga..js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi","/_next/static/chunks/09-r7sdqv1jf4.js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi","/_next/static/chunks/06dn~uer6.43l.js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi"],"default"] 19:I[38632,["/_next/static/chunks/0qqtp3r0h7kah.js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi","/_next/static/chunks/0iukvycbd42rl.js?dpl=dpl_ADavNnop8X1LgnurSAwpmKs3ySqi"],"IconMark"] 18:T4ac,Devastating compromises. Midnight rides. A nailbiter vote. Statue toppling riots… and the very real possibility of death. This July 4th, we're taking you inside the making of the Declaration of Independence and how, against all odds, a single document introduced the world to a new kind of nation.

Guests:

Walter Isaacson, professor at Tulane University and author of The Greatest Sentence Ever Written.

Denise Kiernan, author of Signing Their Lives Away: The Fame and Misfortune of the Men Who Signed the Declaration and Obstinate Daughters: The Rebels, Writers, and Renegade Women Who Ignited the American Revolution.

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The story of July 4th is messier than you remember

Throughline

The story of July 4th is messier than you remember