Tony James has spent over four decades seeing what was coming next and acting on it long before anyone else.

He built DLJ from a mid-sized brokerage into one of the most influential platforms on Wall Street by creating the leveraged buyout and private capital businesses that became the model the rest of the industry eventually adopted. He joined Blackstone as COO and constructed an entirely new set of investment businesses, helping transform the private equity firm into the world’s largest alternative asset manager. At Costco, he has spent four decades helping build and safeguard a company around a single principle — always do what is right for members, and the shareholders will take care of themselves.

Every one of those calls looked unconventional at the time. None of them do now.

In this episode of Grey Matter, Tony James sits down with Consello Founder, Chairman and CEO Declan Kelly to discuss the instincts behind those moments, the decisions that defined it, and what a career built at that scale ultimately teaches about judgment, patience, and knowing what to do next.

In this conversation, Tony discusses:

· Why he turned down Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley out of school and how he built DLJ's leveraged buyout business

· The culture he built at DLJ and later rehabilitated at Blackstone, and why teams that root for each other without incentives beat individual talent every time

· Spending a billion dollars on a distressed credit team in the middle of a market collapse, and why it was one of the hardest and most consequential bets he made at Blackstone

· Why he turned down a senior role in government after an honest assessment of where he could be most effective

· What four decades at Costco taught him about the power of doing one thing extraordinarily well and refusing to get distracted by anything else

About Consello

Consello is an Advisory and Investing Platform with offices in New York, Miami, Atlanta, Dublin, Belfast, London, Barcelona, Abu Dhabi and Riyadh.

Consello’s distinct advisory practices provide the complete strategic counsel today’s leaders need to grow and transform their organizations. Consello’s advisory expertise spans Corporate Advisory; M&A; Management Consulting; Talent; and Sports and Entertainment. Dedicated teams operate in each practice, led by a leadership group with deep operational experience across industries, business growth stages and market cycles and with an expansive set of global corporate relationships.

Consello’s investment business, Consello Capital, identifies high-potential mid-market companies and invests capital and expertise to transform their growth.

About Grey Matter Host Declan Kelly

Declan Kelly is the Founder, Chairman and CEO of Consello, one of the world's most influential boutique advisory firms. A trusted advisor to dozens of CEOs leading the world's top companies, Mr. Kelly has built or run four global consulting companies over the last three decades prior to founding Consello. Mr. Kelly also served in government as US Economic Envoy to Northern Ireland during the Obama administration.

Tony James: From Signal to Scale - The Foresight that Shaped Modern Finance | Grey Matter with Declan Kelly

Grey Matter with Declan Kelly: Inside the Minds of the People Who Move the World

Tony James: From Signal to Scale - The Foresight that Shaped Modern Finance | Grey Matter with Declan Kelly