Heather Berlin is a neurologist and associate clinical professor who studies the science of giving up control. She joins Chris to talk about finding the balance between knowing when to hold on to control and when to let go and be present in the moment. They also discuss why you don’t need to always be productive or in a constant state of self-optimization, but how there are benefits in learning to lose track of time and practicing boredom.

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How to give up control - advice from neuroscientist Heather Berlin

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How to give up control - advice from neuroscientist Heather Berlin