Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

We went to a mecca of football to film the latest episode. This conversation takes us to Turin, Italy, where we were in the Juventus Creator Lab with Italian football (I mean soccer for the Americans) legend and one of the best defenders of all time Giorgio Chiellini.

Giorgio’s career and playing style were defined by Juventus’ very motto, fino alla fine (“until the end”). It’s also a mentality that he brings to every aspect of life on and off the pitch.

After an illustrious playing career at one of the world’s biggest clubs, Juventus, and a career that also included two World Cup appearances for Italy and winning the Euro 2020 as the Captain of Italy, Giorgio came back home to Turin rejoin the club where he starred for 17 years: Juventus. Giorgio has gone from the pitch to the boardroom, helping to lead Juventus as the Director of Football Strategy. He has brought the player’s perspective to the business side of football, balancing the nuances of sports and business.

Despite the demands that Giorgio faced on the field as a player to maintain a standard of play at the highest levels of the game, he found time during his career to pursue his passion for business. He received his MBA while playing for Juventus and also was involved in the player development side in his final years as a player at LAFC. More recently, he became an investor in LAFC and in Mercury13, a multi-club investor in women’s football teams, including FC Como. He’s also an active investor in the European startup community.

Giorgio and I had a wide-ranging and fascinating conversation that covered several dimensions of the business of sport. We discussed:

How teams, owners, and investors can balance both the sport and business aspects of the game.
What it means for sports now that players can have bigger social followings than their clubs or leagues.
How Juventus has built and amplified its brand through initiatives like the Creator Lab.
How clubs like Juventus can help players build their off-field brand while maintaining a high-quality on-field product.
How Giorgio’s work off the field while playing informed how he wanted to spend his time post-career in business.
What Giorgio’s day-to-day is like as Director of Football Strategy for Juventus.
Why Giorgio invested in LAFC and what he thinks about the future of the MLS.
What American owners and investors can learn from European soccer clubs and owners, and what European clubs and owners can learn from American owners and investors.

Thanks, Giorgio, for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and enthusiasm at the intersection of sports and business.

Note: this episode was filmed in October 2025 with a plan to publish the conversation around the World Cup.

Show Notes

00:00 Split Second Decision

01:06 A Message from Our Sponsor, Ultimus

02:10 Meet Giorgio Chiellini

04:17 What Is the Juventus Creator Lab

04:36 Building Fans Through Content

05:27 Football Brand Goes Global

06:15 Revenue From Winning

06:43 Two Hearts One Club

07:52 Winning Versus Storytelling

08:40 Fans Everywhere Now

09:27 Too Many Games Problem

09:51 Stakeholders and Calendar

11:00 Owner Advice Communication

11:28 From Kid to Club

14:12 Film Study for Matches

15:02 The Saka Tactical Foul

17:26 Social Media and Mental Health

29:32 US World Cup Reality

29:45 Grassroots Long Game

30:09 MLS and USL Momentum

30:14 Stadiums and Growth

30:20 MLS Season vs Playoffs

30:46 Supporters Shield Incentives

31:11 Travel and Rest Mentality

31:33 Europe Stakes Comparison

31:54 Highlights Era Question

32:24 Bite-Sized Sports Culture

33:40 Choosing What to Watch

33:55 Sports Must Adapt

34:33 Owners Business View

35:15 TV Rights and Strategy

36:05 Institutional Money Trend

36:42 Why Funds Love Sports

37:04 Balancing Profit and Emotion

38:12 Fiduciary Duty vs Winning

39:15 Permanent Capital Advantage

40:42 Mission Values Legacy

41:54 Juventus DNA and Family

44:31 Leadership Lessons Learned

45:38 From Captain to Executive

47:05 Humanity and Energy

48:21 Player to Business Challenges

50:00 Investing in Italian Startups

51:47 How He Picks Investments

52:43 Innovation and AI in Sport

53:16 Favorite Alternative Investment

54:34 Profitability and Winning

55:21 Closing

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