In the final stretch of the presidential campaign, both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are turning to popular lifestyle and comedy podcasts to woo different audiences. We were curious whether the candidates sounded any different in these environments than at their rallies. So columnists Charles Lane, Molly Roberts and Perry Bacon listened in and discussed what they learned.

Listen to the podcasts we discussed in the episode here:

Donald Trump on “This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von”

Donald Trump on “Flagrant”

Kamala Harris on “Call Her Daddy”

Kamala Harris on “All the Smoke”

Doritos and cocaine: Harris and Trump try out podcast populism

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Doritos and cocaine: Harris and Trump try out podcast populism