In this two-for-one special recorded at HumanX, Ryan is joined by Dataiku’s Florian Douetteau to chat about the governance, orchestration, and data requirements for serious agentic systems and 1Password’s Nancy Wang for a conversation on making agent swarms secure.

Ryan first catches up with Dataiku co-founder and CEO Florian Douettea to chat serious agentic systems and why they require intentional frameworks, orchestration, governance, and reusable, documented data products. Then, 1Password’s CTO Nancy Wang returns to the show to discuss why current identity standards don’t fit the new world of agents, especially when ephemeral agent swarms make attribution to a single user difficult.

Episode notes:

Dataiku orchestrates data stacks and lets you create analytics, models, and agents.

Florian previously appeared on this program in an episode recorded at the last HumanX conference.

1Password keeps your credentials secure through end-to-end encryption, zero-knowledge architecture, and more. You can learn more about building secure agent swarms at their blog.

Nancy Wang previously appeared on the pod in March 2026.

Connect with Florian on LinkedIn.

Connect with Nancy on LinkedIn.

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