The parts of ourselves we silence are often the very things that make us come alive.

In this heartfelt episode of Midlife Chrysalis, I sit down with Gail Larsen, transformational speaking teacher, author, and longtime MEA faculty member, for a soulful conversation about authenticity, creativity, aging, and finding your voice.

From growing up in a restrictive religious environment to helping thousands of people discover their “original medicine,” Gail shares the wisdom she’s gathered through decades of transformation and deep listening.

Together, we explore:

Why emotional connection matters more than polished performance
How transformational listening helps us reconnect with ourselves
Why our unique gifts are meant to be shared
How entering the unknown keeps us fully alive
Why transformation comes not from strategy, but from mystery

This is one of those conversations that gently stays with you long after it ends.

Timestamps:

(02:22) Why Her 80s Feel Like the Best Years

(04:18) Escaping a Restrictive Religious Life

(07:19) Motherhood, Divorce, and Unexpected Paths

(8:20) Madame Ovary and Finding Humor in Menopause

(11:43) Her First Speech to 4,000 Women

(13:34) Comfort Zone vs Home Zone Speaking

(17:43) The Heart of Transformational Speaking

(18:37) Discovering Your Original Medicine

(20:13) What Makes a Speech Truly Transformative

(22:43) Getting Out of the Jet Lag of Your Life

(25:00) Why People Lose Themselves in Midlife

(27:21) The Origins of Transformational Listening

(32:15) Feeling Creatively Dried Up After COVID

(34:26) Creativity, Soul, and Transformation

(35:18) Menopause, Reinvention, and Santa Fe

(40:54) Growing Older vs Growing Whole

(43:27) Gail’s Biggest Life Lessons

(45:11) Chip Conley on Cancer, Loss, and Wisdom

Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

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Why Deep Listening is the Key to Transformation | Gail Larsen

The Midlife Chrysalis

Why Deep Listening is the Key to Transformation | Gail Larsen