The United States and China are really the only two countries that matter right now in shaping the A.I. future. As President Trump and President Xi Jinping meet in Beijing, there’s a kind of Cold War atmosphere, with people talking about an A.I. arms race. But who is winning? Are we even in a race at all? Kyle Chan, a foreign policy fellow at the Brookings Institution, says it’s hard to call it a race because the U.S. and China have very different A.I. goals.

00:00:25 U.S. vs. China in A.I.
00:03:07 Everyday A.I. in China
00:07:41 China's A.I. chip limitations
00:12:14 China's A.I. advantage: energy & deployment
00:16:10 China's public mood on A.I.
00:19:44 AI, job displacement and social concerns
00:23:53 Robots for China's labor shortage
00:26:55 China's view on America's AGI fixation
00:31:16 Distilling A.I. models
00:38:39 U.S. needs more A.I. deployment
00:41:48 U.S. chip policy and the hawk's argument

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China Doesn’t Worry About A.I. Like We Do

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China Doesn’t Worry About A.I. Like We Do