In the third episode of "We Don't Talk About Leonard," Leonard Leo is in Maine, a man in his castle, at the height of his powers. He has helped remake the American judicial system, and now he has a plan to do the same for society and politics — to make a Federalist Society for everything. ProPublica reporters Andrea Bernstein, Andy Kroll, and Ilya Marritz drill even further into the fight to gain influence over state courts, and reveal what Leo and his allies are planning for the future.

1. Big money starts pouring into state Supreme Court races in Wisconsin and across the country. Listen.

2. Leonard Leo takes over a network of conservatives trying to shape American culture. Listen.

3. Leonard Leo faces pushback in a town where people know who he is. Listen.

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We Don't Talk About Leonard: Episode 3

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We Don't Talk About Leonard: Episode 3