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Max Kryzhanovskiy, President and CEO of MOS Creative, is driven by a desire to set an example for his children and show what’s possible through technology, persistence, and innovation. As the leader of a tech-forward agency that builds websites, apps, and AI-enabled platforms, Max helps businesses move from idea to execution by creating digital products that solve real problems and scale over time.

We explore Max’s MVP Framework — Define the problem, Determine target market, Prototype the product, Build the MVP, Test and obtain feedback, Iterate — a practical approach for transforming ideas into scalable digital products. Max explains why founders should avoid overbuilding too early, how AI is accelerating prototyping and development, and why businesses must balance automation with authentic human connection.

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Drive Growth Using AI Agents with Max Kryzhanovskiy

Good day, dear listeners. Steve Preda here with the Management Blueprint Podcast, and my guest today is Max Kryzhanovskiy, the President and CEO of MOS Creative, a company that builds websites and apps that drive growth. They were also the first company in Baltimore to launch a mobile site. Welcome to the show, Max.

Thank you for having me.

Let me ask you this—what is a mobile site? Is it a mobile phone site, or is it something different?

I mean, now it probably doesn’t matter as much anymore, because everybody obviously has a website that works on a smartphone screen—or a responsive websites. But before mobile websites came out—or I should say, when smartphones first came out—we had to adjust for smaller screens. We were all used to bigger screens on a computer, and then once we started having different screen sizes come out before responsive, we were the first company to have a mobile website in Baltimore. And we actually built a web application specifically to create them ourselves, and then also went to market to offer it to other clients as well. So a mobile website is just like it sounds, a website that’s specifically designed for mobile.

That’s cool. So it sounds like you are very much a tech-forward company, and you are at the edge of technology. And as we were logging on, you said that you would be recording this on your phone because you actually have AI agents running on your computer. Does that mean you have AI agents as part of your team? What kind of agents do you have? Is it still an experiment, or is it already in execution mode?

It’s in execution mode, but we’re always experimenting. We like to think we’re ahead of the curve, but with AI, we’re all experimenting to a certain extent, right? Something new comes out, we try it out, see if it works, and see how it can be applied to your business—what kind of outcomes it can give you. So I’m all about AI. It’s amazing. It’s an amazing tool. But I think AI is becoming a lot more than we thought it was going to be—and also a lot less at the same time. Meaning, when AI launched—for example, when ChatGPT came out to the broader market—I mean, obviously AI had been around for a while—but when ChatGPT launched its chatbot platform publicly, we were amazed by how much work it could done. So it went from zero to a hundred. “Oh my God, it can do all of this,” right? But now, for example, with the more recent models—4.5, 5.0—the improvements are much smaller.

It’s not a hundred percent or a thousand percent better anymore. Now it’s maybe five or ten percent better, but the cost keeps increasing. I just read somewhere that even Claude said Claude Code won’t be included much longer as part of the regular plan. So now it’s only in the $200 higher-tier plan, plus you have to buy additional tokens. So it’s really becoming more like, “Hey, yeah, we can do this for you—but you’re going to end up paying something similar to what you’d pay a team.” At first, it was more like, “Let’s get into the market. Let’s get a lot of people interested.” But now, obviously, they have a lot of money behind them—investors, VCs, public market pressure—and they need to bring in revenue. So I think things are going to change very soon. AI is going to become a lot more expensive because the infrastructure and resources it requires are expensive. So eventually, those costs are going to be passed on to users.

Yeah. And I noticed that ChatGPT started to do some ads as well. They’re probably going to go that direction, and who knows what that’s going to bring. But that’s not our topic today. Today, it’s about something else—frameworks. But before I go to the framework question, I’d like to ask you: what is your personal “why,” and how are you manifesting it at MOS Creative?

Well, I’m a family man, so my “why” is to see my kids grow up to be amazing human beings—and hopefully to show them a great example of what can be accomplished in sports and in business. So my “why” is also to be a good person. Success can mean different things to different people, but for me, I love the hunt to get to a certain level of success. And then it’s kind of like—us as humans, or at least a lot of people—we reach a certain level of success and we don’t really celebrate it. It’s more like, “Okay, let’s get to the next level.” So my “why” is to show my kids that anything is possible if they really want it. Why I got into this space—it was exciting. You could see how quickly technology was moving, the kind of innovation that was possible, and it excited me. So that was one of the main reasons I got into technology. But the other reason was because I was in a different business, and we created technology that helped us grow. And I thought, “Oh wow, this is a completely different way to scale a business.” So technology became the direction we took.

Yeah, I love it. I think inspiring our kids is a huge driver for many people, and it totally makes sense. Technology is exciting. I’d like to switch gears here and ask my other common question on this podcast, because this podcast is all about frameworks—business frameworks—how we can help listeners understand things, simplify things, and see different perspectives. So my question to you is: what is your favorite shortcut to success—or framework? And I don’t mean “shortcut” in a negative sense, but rather a framework that allows you to understand things differently, make decisions, serve clients, and create valuable outcomes. Whatever it is—something that has worked for you, and is simple enough that you can explain it to listeners in three to five steps.

Well, I believe in always being open to learning. It’s not specifically a framework—it’s more of a mindset: understanding that we don’t know everything, especially now, with how quickly things are changing. I mean, a lot of people say that AI is going to make humanity a little dumber than we are. But actually, I learn a lot from it as well. If I’m doing something and I think, “Oh, this is a great way to speed up the process,” then I use it. So let’s say, for example, a client asks me a question. There are different ways to approach it. If I already know the answer because I have specific experience with it, I can answer it, right? That doesn’t always mean the answer is going to be correct.

I can research it, or I can get an answer from AI and then verify it through research and experience to make sure the outcome is actually what it says it’s going to be. The learning part is making sure you’re always open to figuring out whether the steps you’ve taken before are the right steps—or whether they can be optimized. I’m a big believer that everything can be optimized, especially now. There’s almost no question that can’t be answered quickly. Maybe there are some deep philosophical questions—but for the most part, especially in business, work, or even life, you can get answers very quickly.

For example, I had a kind of vertigo-type feeling, and I was wondering what exactly it was. I entered specific prompts into ChatGPT, and it actually broke things down really well for me. Then I went to a doctor. First, I checked with a friend of mine who’s a nurse, and she said, “This is probably what you have.” And she started asking me questions. I thought, “This is funny—these are exactly the same questions ChatGPT asked me.” And her husband said, “You know what? That proves that medicine is basically a set of questions. As you answer one question, it leads to the next.” So it’s like a dynamic questionnaire. And by the time I got to the doctor, I already had a good idea of what it potentially was, and I knew what questions to ask so I could understand the next steps to fix it.

Yeah.

So what I’m saying is there’s always a way to improve. I’m a big believer in that. It doesn’t matter what you’re doing, because in this age, everything moves very fast—regardless of the business you’re in.

That’s true. It’s interesting that you say ChatGPT can answer any question. It’s true—sometimes it hallucinates, but it still gives you an answer. Yesterday, I went to a presentation, and the president of Great Game of Business talked about this. He said, “Today, the answer is everywhere. So it’s not a lack of answers—it’s a lack of good questions.” So what we really have to come up with are good questions to ask. That’s the bigger challenge now—not finding the answer. And I thought that was a really interesting insight.

I agree. It’s the same thing, right? It relates to prompts as well. If you have a good prompt, you’re going to get a better answer. If you ask a good question, you’re going to get a better answer. So yeah, I agree with you. Listen, AI isn’t a complete solution, but it’s a huge help—especially if you’re just starting out.

Yeah. So what drives your business? Is it technology? Is it trends? Is it something else? What drives it?

It’s kind of a mix between technology and growth marketing. What that means is we work with clients all the way from ideation to scaling. We’ve also had several clients successfully exit. So clients come to us and say, “I have an idea. How do I take it to the next step?” Obviously now, there are AI builders and AI platforms that can help take a high-level idea and turn it into some kind of prototype—or at least a basic flow. But ideally, we work with clients from the idea stage all the way through design, development, launch, and driving traffic to the product. So the perfect client fits into that category. They might have an idea for a web application, mobile application, or software product.

They come to us and they’re not really sure what the next steps are—or they’ve done some research For example, I spoke to a prospective client the other day. She worked with a developer who tried to build the product using an AI builder. For some reason, something didn’t work out, and now she’s back at square one. So now we have to review what she actually wants to build, determine the best approach, and figure out what phase one, phase two, and phase three should look like. So that’s kind of how we work. For our clients, it’s not just, “Let us develop it for you.” It’s also about the creative side, the messaging, and the user experience. It’s about making sure that when someone downloads the app—or visits the website or web application—it serves its purpose. It’s a problem-solving product. It needs to solve a problem so users keep coming back again and again. And then we help grow it to new audiences. That’s when it starts to scale and become exponential. Does that make sense?

Yeah. So I’m wondering, you work from the idea forward, or you work from the outcome backwards? What’s the approach?

That’s a great question. Not everyone knows the outcome right away. When someone has both an idea and a clear outcome, it works better, right? Because then you can help them get to that outcome. But overall, the outcomes are usually very high-level. You know: “I want to build this web application or software because I’m targeting this audience.” Okay—but what does that really mean? What problem are you solving? To be honest with you, ninety percent of people don’t really know what problems they should be solving at the initial stage. So, talking about frameworks, we work with them to define which problems they should solve first. Because most startups—or even profitable companies trying to add new technology into their workflow or business—often don’t know what one or two problems they should solve for the MVP before going all in.

Yeah. Okay, so step one is to define the problem. What’s step two?

Make sure you have the right audience for that problem. That’s a big issue. A lot of times, people try to serve everyone. You don’t want to go too broad, and you don’t want to go too narrow. If you go too narrow, you’re going to hit a ceiling before you even go to market.

So you determine the audience for the problem you’re trying to solve, right?

Correct.

And then what’s the next step?

Once you determine the audience and define the problem, the next best step is to create some kind of prototype and actually take it to that audience to test for product-market fit. Meaning: get feedback. Again, it doesn’t have to be a fully working product. But go to that audience and get feedback like: “Yes, this solves my problem,” and “Yes, I would pay for it.” Or even better—for them to actually exchange some money to join a waitlist or gain access to an early version of the product, so they can test it and provide feedback. That’s the best-case scenario. Because once you have that input, it becomes much easier to make adjustments. It doesn’t matter whether those adjustments are in the design or in the actual working product—you’re refining it for that niche audience.

Yeah, that makes sense. So you design the prototype or minimum viable product, then you test it and get feedback. Then what do you do?

Well, I want to clarify something. Designing a prototype and having a minimum viable product can be two separate things.

Okay.

You can design a prototype. Again, it can be designed in Figma, using an AI builder, or even just as a workflow or user flow. Obviously now, things are a little different because you can build prototypes much faster. That doesn’t mean they’re going to be production-ready. But a minimum viable product is usually focused on solving one or two specific problems for that market. It’s a problem-solving product that actually works—meaning it’s much closer to being production-ready.

Yeah.

So those are two separate things. There’s a very big difference between them.

Yeah, because now you have vibe coding, and with tools like Lovable—or whatever platform you’re using—you can create a prototype quickly. But it’s not necessarily going to work, and then you still have to build the actual working product. Correct. Yes, I agree. Then you test it, expose it to the target market, and gather feedback. And then what do you do? Do you iterate? What’s the next step?

You iterate, yeah. So at that point, ideally, you have product-market fit, you’ve received great feedback from users, and—best-case scenario—they’ve even paid you some money. Then you either expand on what has already been built, or you go all in: invest more money into it and start building a production-ready product. And once you have that, you may realize that you also need to improve the user interface. That happens a lot—especially if you vibe-coded it. The output usually isn’t the best when it comes to user interface design or user experience. So you may need to redesign the interface, properly develop it, and then take a production-ready application to market. And then it goes back into the cycle of iteration. Meaning, you keep gathering feedback. This is why I often recommend not adding too many features in the beginning. Focus on one or two core features—one or two main user flows within those features. That’s it. Forget about everything else.

Yeah. And then you can add features later.

You can always add features later. Most of the time, if you add too many features in the beginning, you’ll probably end up cutting at least 40% of them because people just won’t use them. And I’m not talking about core features like sign-up, sign-in, forgot password, onboarding, authentication—that kind of stuff. Obviously, you need those. But you still have to figure out who your audience is. Do you need SMS login? Do you need email login? Do you need both? Do you need social logins? You have to make sure you clearly understand your audience—but you don’t need everything all at once. You may eventually need all of it, but not in the beginning.

Yeah, that’s true. So you’ve worked with other businesses, which means you’re primarily a business-to-business agency, right?

Business-to-business, business-to-government—we’ve also built business-to-consumer apps as well. But usually, our client is a business-to-business.

Yeah. So here’s my question: In B2B, how do you gain people’s trust so they’ll even engage with your product? I understand there’s a funnel—but how do you get businesses into the top of that funnel? How do you create that initial trust so they engage? What does it take?

Many things. Content helps, obviously. Creating content like this, creating videos—I create videos on a regular basis talking about what’s out there, what’s possible, what’s good, what’s bad. Kind of the everyday life of an agency, and the type of work we do. We also post projects on different directories and platforms. A lot of previous clients come back to us, and we get many client referrals. We rank pretty well for SEO and AEO, so a lot of people find us through ChatGPT. Especially because that’s one of the services we offer. People find us when searching for things like “best app developers” or “best website designers” in our specific area. We’re not targeting nationwide rankings—that’s much harder and a much longer-term strategy. But in our area—Maryland, Howard County, Columbia—we rank very high.

And what does it take to rank high in AEO—in AI search?

It’s the same approach we take to rank in Google. Google obviously owns Gemini, and now there’s Google AI Overview. It’s really a real-estate play. If you have a website that’s properly structured for Google—with some adjustments for semantic search, like adding question-and-answer content to every page, especially product and service pages—you improve your chances significantly. You also need a properly configured robots.txt file with clear descriptions, so when search crawlers reach your site, they can immediately understand the structure and know where to go. When you see sources cited in AI search, that’s exactly what those systems are reading from your site.

You also need the right technical setup: Your website has to be fast. You need proper H1, H2, and H3 structure across the site. So overall, it’s about having a properly structured website. If you follow strong SEO fundamentals, with additional improvements specifically for AEO and GEO—because now it’s not just SEO anymore, it’s SEO, AEO, and GEO—you’ll usually appear in ChatGPT, Google AI Overview, Gemini, Perplexity, and other AI search tools. And your Google Business Profile and Google Maps listing are properly optimized—which has changed a lot recently on Google’s side as well—you’ll also show up more often in local AI search results.

So isn’t it true that AI search looks for different kinds of signals than traditional SEO? I’ve heard, for example, that backlinks are less important in AI search than they used to be.

They’re not as important for AI search, but backlinks still carry a lot of weight. Again, you have to think about this as two separate systems, right? There’s Google Search—with Google AI Overview and featured snippets—and then there’s Google Maps. You don’t need a website just to appear on Google Maps. You mainly need a properly optimized Google Business Profile. And you can still show up in AI search that way. Having a website does help, because it sends another signal to Google, but it’s not as critical. The most important thing—and I’ll answer your question for both cases—is consistency and structure. For Google Maps, if you have a properly maintained Google Business Profile with constant updates—blog posts, videos, photos, and business updates—that teaches Google AI what your business does. So you want updated product pages, images, descriptions, and location details if you’re location-based.

All of that educates Google, which helps you rank higher on Google Maps. And like I said, Google Maps ranks very well in AI search. Now, if you also have a website, that’s even better. And on your website, it helps to embed your Google Map as well, because that reinforces another signal from Google Maps. For example, some of our clients have multiple locations, so we include Google Maps with all their locations on the site—and that helps. Then you also create location pages, just like you create product pages or service pages. Google—and AI systems in general—don’t really rank entire websites. They rank individual pages. That’s why top-of-funnel content is usually blog posts or educational content answering someone’s problem. Then that written or video content leads users to a service page or product page. That’s basically how it works. Does that make sense?

Yeah, that’s very interesting. So if I want to increase my AI ranking… one of my clients told me that if your clients post about you on Reddit, that can be really powerful and help drive AI search visibility. Is that true?

Reddit and Quora are very powerful. Very powerful. They rank very high. Listen, I’ll give you a simple example that anybody can use. If you go to Quora or Reddit and look at the questions people are asking—for example, let’s say you search for “app development”—you can filter by questions and literally see what people are asking. If you answer those questions in a natural way, related to your service or product, and include a backlink—not in a salesy way, but naturally—that’s a very strong backlink. And speaking of backlinks: they’re still relevant. Maybe they don’t carry as much weight as they used to, but they’re still very valuable.

Because when Google or AI systems evaluate content—and when you search in ChatGPT, Claude, or Gemini and see sources—those sources are essentially citations and backlinks. So if your website has strong citations and is properly structured, it absolutely helps you get discovered. You just need to make sure everything is set up correctly so Google—or any other search system—understands what your content means. But yes, to answer your question directly: Reddit and Quora are excellent for visibility because they’re high-authority websites with massive traffic and very strong domain ratings.

Yeah. That’s great. So Google Maps, Reddit, Quora, they are big drivers. That’s great.

Huge drivers. I mean, listen, there are many others—but social media has become huge over the past two years. Before, if you made a Reel on Instagram, you wouldn’t be able to find it through Google search. But in the past couple of years, they opened that up. Why do you think they did that? Because they understand the value of content. Just like YouTube—where you can find videos through specific keywords—they want Instagram videos to be discoverable through Google Search and AI search. And then those searches lead people back to their platform. If someone who isn’t already an Instagram user discovers content they like—a creator they like—they may sign up for Instagram because of it. So yeah, all of this ties back to backlinks and discoverability. It’s really about how you use those backlinks. I mean, YouTube has been a huge driver for people looking for answers or trying to learn almost anything. So yeah, that’s kind of how it works. It’s one big spiderweb.

Yes. It’s interesting. So basically, the more content I have and the more content other people post about me in credible sites, whether it’s Reddit, Quora, YouTube, social media, and they all point to my website or web pages, then the more it’s going to be discoverable by AI. That’s kinda makes sense.

You’re definitely going to become more discoverable. But again, if it’s just “Steve Preda,” that alone may not be valuable unless someone is specifically searching for your name. Now, if people are responding to or discussing how to apply a specific framework—and someone is searching for that framework that relates to your content—then it becomes relevant. Does that make sense?

Yeah. Yeah, understand. Yeah. Absolutely. Let me ask you this. If you could have a magic wand and fix one thing inside your company in the next 12 months, what would that be?

That’s an interesting question. I don’t know. I think I’d be very interested in applying more AI agents so they can help drive the business and support more growth. Overall, I just want healthy growth—making sure we’re happy with the work we’re doing, and that our clients are happy with the work we deliver. Because that leads to better outcomes, longer-term relationships, and healthier growth for the company. I mean, my ultimate goal at some point is probably to grow the company and eventually sell it. If we’re happy with what we’re doing, and our clients are happy with the work we’re delivering, I think that growth will happen organically.

Yeah. And what do you need to make the company sellable in your perspective?

Having strong, scalable systems—and AI is going to help with a lot of that.

So do you believe that a company with only AI employees—at the extreme—could still become a very valuable company?

No, I’m not saying we should rely only on AI, and I’m definitely not planning to let go of any employees. What I’m saying is that AI can help with certain smaller tasks that sometimes get missed or forgotten. That’s a perfect fit for AI. For example, even during conversations—if a project manager is handling several clients at once—we usually need updates on what was discussed. Yes, AI can record the conversation, but more importantly: what are the actionable next steps? And from those action items, what has already been completed, and what still needs to be done? Those are the kinds of things AI agents can help with—tasks that don’t necessarily require a human. That way, time isn’t wasted and can instead be used more effectively to make sure things are getting done and that we’re reaching the outcome you mentioned earlier.

What is your opinion about controlling AI agents? What is the level of risk? Not just about someone maybe doing a prompt injection and kind of hijacking your agents, but losing control of the agents in terms of complexity. So do you see a risk there that someone could kind of unleash these agents and somehow not be able to control them, or the quality of their work? Could they not control that? Or something changes and the agents get impacted—maybe a software update or something like that? Is this a thing, or is that not a concern?

I think there should definitely always be guardrails. For example, right now we’re building a platform with AI to gather RFPs, review them, score them, and actually create outputs—like the structure of the RFP. But before they get submitted, an actual person reviews them. I think there should always be final approval by a human—unless it becomes such a perfect system. I mean, it’s software, right? At a certain point, can something go wrong? Yes. Especially with updates—unless you own the full process from beginning to end. Yeah, I think there’s always a risk, but there’s always a risk with software.

There should definitely be some guardrails, no doubt about it. I don’t think it should be the last step before a human approves it and actually—for this RFP example—submits the response to whatever platform. I think a human should always review and approve it to make sure everything is working properly. But I think you can save a lot of time. For example, instead of us doing two or three RFPs a month, we can do ten or fifteen. I mean, the quality isn’t really changing. It’s structure. It’s answering what they’re asking for. So if it fits the criteria we’re looking for, we still spend time reviewing it. I mean, we got an RFP the other day that was 150 pages. It would probably take two days just to read it. And at a certain point, you’re like, “You know what? This isn’t a good fit.” So it saves time. It just creates more efficiency. But there should definitely be guardrails and structure for sure, and a human should be involved in the loop. That I agree with you on.

Okay. It’s a big topic. One of the thoughts is that at some point AI is talking to AI. Like in hiring—you see these big recruiting companies using AI to filter resumes, and then applicants use AI to write resumes that fit what the filters are looking for. And at some point, the authenticity or credibility of those resumes begins to fade because it’s all prearranged. So then the whole purpose of filtering employees starts to diminish. Do you think this kind of thing might happen with RFPs too?

Maybe. Very possible. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not happening already. Yeah, I mean, it’s definitely very possible. There are already several platforms that find RFPs. They work a little differently. We’re building specifically for our own purpose. I do want to document the process to kind of show, “Hey, here’s what can be done.” But yeah, it’s very possible, for sure. Listen, if you’re relying on a regular process to get a job, then you’re probably not going to get the job. There are a lot more people looking for work right now. I don’t know if you heard about Microsoft—and I think Tesla too—but companies are letting people go left and right. Microsoft is offering long-term employees buyouts. And by long-term employees, I mean people who are probably older and maybe not as knowledgeable or experienced with AI.

It’s like, “Hey, let us buy you out so you can retire a little earlier.” So this is happening. If you’re going through the same regular hiring process as everyone else, you’re competing against 500 or 1,000 other people for the same job. Obviously, it’s an employer’s market right now, not an employee’s market. If you’re trying to get a job, it shouldn’t just be through the regular process. It should be through people you know. Networking is going to have even more value. Personal connections matter, and people knowing, “Hey, this person actually spoke to me the right way.” You should also know how to use AI, because that’s going to give you an edge in getting a job. But actually speaking to someone should happen through networking and connections.

Yeah, that’s my feeling too—that human interaction is actually going to increase dramatically in value. Because authenticity… that’s really the only way to verify authenticity: being face-to-face with someone, a real physical person. That’s fascinating.

Yeah. But I’ll tell you—like I said, I post videos on a regular basis. My mom asked me the other day, “Max, are you using AI, or is it really you?” I said, “No, it’s really me. It’s not AI.” So it’s funny because AI is getting so good that you’re not always sure what’s real anymore. And even with RFPs—it’s not just about submitting proposals or resumes. Personal and human connection is going to become more valuable than ever. If I personally knew every buyer putting out an RFP, I’d rather talk to them directly, one hundred percent. Because it becomes a completely different process.

Yeah, that’s spot on. Love it. So, great information. I love the framework: define the problem, determine the audience, create a prototype, build the MVP, test it, and then iterate. That’s how you build a digital product—whether it’s a website or an app. So if you’re out there looking for a solution, Max Kryzhanovskiy and MOS Creative may have the solution for you. So if people would like to connect with Max Kryzhanovskiy and MOS Creative, where can they reach you?

People can reach us through our website: www.moscreative.com. They can also find me on LinkedIn under Max Kryzhanovskiy or MOS Creative. They can fill out a form on our website or email us at info@moscreative.com.

Fantastic. So if you want an AI-driven platform, definitely reach out to Max. So Max, thank you for coming and sharing your ideas. And I love that you have such a strong vision for AI and that you’re actively experimenting within your company, which means your clients will benefit from that as well. And if you enjoyed this conversation, then stay tuned, because every week a successful entrepreneur comes on the show and shares their ideas and frameworks. So thanks for coming, Max—and thank you for listening.

Thank you.

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