Michael Barbaro

The intersection of culinary arts and professional journalism defines this conversation between host Ina Garten and guest Michael Barbaro, co-host of the New York Times podcast *The Daily*. The discussion explores the evolution of *The Daily*, detailing its origins in the wake of the 2016 election and the shift from traditional print reporting to immersive, sound-rich audio storytelling. Barbaro reflects on his unique, staccato speaking style—influenced by his grandfather’s critique of filler words—and the personal sacrifices required to build a successful media platform. Interspersed with these professional insights, the pair prepares Spicy Hermit Bars and Chicken Marbella, highlighting the role of food as a medium for connection and hospitality. This exchange illustrates how balancing high-stakes news with personal, human-centered storytelling creates a resonant experience for both creators and listeners.