In this episode of Mostly Growth, the number one podcast in product monetization, CJ Gustafson and Kyle Poyar break down why “SaaS” may have become a dirty word, HubSpot’s shaky AEO launch, Legora’s big Jude Law swing, Elena Verna’s point that users now teach themselves software, and whether Allbirds is headed for the bleakest AI pivot in tech.

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