"If you could have a system that could build anything with code, humans can't compete on the same level. That's narrow superintelligence, and we're close."

In this episode of AI Native Dev, Simon Maple sits down with Logan Kilpatrick, who spent years at OpenAI working alongside Sam Altman before moving to Google DeepMind as Group Product Manager.

They get into:

There will be 100x more developers in the world because of AI
AGI will be a product, not a model
The way you used AI tools three months ago is already wrong
What's actually changing inside the Gemini team and why it matters for developers building with it today

The developers who win won't be the ones who mastered today's tools. They'll be the ones who never stopped learning the new ones.

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Simon Maple: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmaple/
Logan Kilpatrick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logankilpatrick/
Google DeepMind: https://www.linkedin.com/company/googledeepmind/
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