Did the Pentagon Threaten the Vatican? (w/ Ed Condon)

The discussion centers on the intersection of American politics, the Catholic Church, and Pope Leo's role amidst domestic and international tensions. It covers the unusual meeting between Pentagon officials and the Vatican's ambassador regarding the Pope's criticism of American foreign policy. The conversation touches on JD Vance's response to the controversy and the broader implications for Catholic figures in the Trump administration. Pope Leo's criticisms of the administration's immigration policies and the unlikelihood of him visiting America soon are also addressed. The speakers explore the dynamic between cradle Catholics and converts within American political life, highlighting the diverse interpretations of faith influencing policy.