01 Apr 2026
2h 19m

#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

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The Joe Rogan Experience

The conversation centers on the potential of ibogaine to treat addiction, PTSD, and traumatic brain injury. W. Bryan Hubbard and former Governor Rick Perry detail their efforts to promote ibogaine research and its integration into the U.S. healthcare system, including securing funding for clinical trials in Texas. They highlight ibogaine's ability to interrupt physiological substance dependency and its neuro-regenerative capacities, citing personal experiences and research findings. Perry shares his journey from skepticism to advocacy, driven by the experiences of veterans and his own positive results from ibogaine treatment. Hubbard outlines the spiritual dimension, viewing ibogaine as a means to affirm individual human divinity. The discussion also covers the challenges of navigating bureaucratic hurdles and the need for presidential support to reschedule ibogaine.

Outlines

Part 1: The Texas Initiative, Advocacy, and Science

Part 2: Clinical Research and Personal Transformation

Part 3: Legislative Progress and Federal Obstacles

Part 4: The Opioid Crisis and Final Call to Action

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