Psychotherapist Esther Perel shot to fame with her TED talks and podcast on sex, infidelity, and the secret to long-term relationships. Lilah meets her in New York to learn about her latest podcast – How's Work? – which puts a microphone in her therapy sessions between co-founders. They discuss how the same dynamics that exist in our romantic relationships also exist in our professional lives – and how best to navigate them. Gris and Lilah also dissect how therapy has been depicted in culture over the years.

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Links from the episode:

–Lilah's written piece on Esther Perel (paywall): https://www.ft.com/content/aaa3b29a-ffb0-11e9-be59-e49b2a136b8d

–How's Work? on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0P13JasQfVZ1RiDCMZMYNU

–Tom Faber's piece for the FT on London's club scene (paywall): https://www.ft.com/content/9e45e870-f668-11e9-bbe1-4db3476c5ff0

–FT NextGen, a package of stories about how the next generation lives: https://www.ft.com/nextgen

–Tickets to the FT's NextGen festival, in London on November 16 (where you can hang out with Gris!): https://www.ftnextgen.com/

–Lilah and James Fontanella-Khan's story on why it’s time to stop ignoring mental health at work: https://ft.com/mentalhealth

–More about Flights, by Olga Tokarczuk: https://www.ft.com/content/076bb888-372b-11e8-8b98-2f31af407cc8

–The rise of Succession, TV’s new must-watch show (Vox): https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/9/24/20870750/succession-hbo-review-season-2-recap

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