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Traditional power systems were designed to flow one way from centralised transmission assets down to households and businesses. But as electrification accelerates, this old model risks becoming a bottleneck.

The grid faces growing pressure from rising demand, including EVs, heat pumps, industrial loads and variable renewable generation, but these could also be the key to flexibility success. The challenge is clear: how do we meet net zero goals affordably, without locking consumers into higher bills?

In this conversation, Alex Schoch, VP of Flexibility and Electrification at Octopus Energy joins Ed Porter to unpack the critical role of consumer-led flexibility in the net zero transition.

Key topics include:

Why intelligent demand is no longer optional for the energy system and what happens if we ignore it.
What does the shift from a supply-led grid to one shaped by consumers really look like?
How smart tariffs can turn everyday appliances into tools for the energy transition.
How aggregation at scale could rival traditional infrastructure and reshape system operations.
Why flexibility can save consumers money as well as the system billions.

About our guest

Alex Schoch is VP of Flexibility and Electrification at Octopus Energy, where he leads efforts to accelerate the electrification of transport, heating, and industry while integrating consumer demand into power systems. With a background at Tesla launching both EV and energy storage businesses -including the landmark Hornsdale battery project in Australia. Alex brings deep expertise in how technology, markets, and policy intersect to drive the energy transition.

Connect with Alex on LinkedIn

or for more information on what Octopus do, head to their website.

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Intelligent Demand: How Consumers Can Support The Grid with Alex Schoch (Octopus Energy)

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Intelligent Demand: How Consumers Can Support The Grid with Alex Schoch (Octopus Energy)