As electricity affordability has risen in the public consciousness, so too has it gone up the priority list for climate groups — although many of their proposals are merely repackaged talking points from past political cycles. But are there risks of talking about affordability so much, and could it distract us from the real issues with the power system?

Rob is joined by Jane Flegal, a senior fellow at the Searchlight Institute and the States Forum. Flegal was the former senior director for industrial emissions at the White House Office of Domestic Climate Policy, and she has worked on climate policy at Stripe. She was recently executive director of the Blue Horizons Foundation.

Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap News.

You can find a full transcript of the episode here.

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Cheap and Abundant Electricity Is Good, by Jane Flegal

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Previously on Shift Key: How California Broke Its Electricity Bills and How Texas Could Destroy Its Electricity Market

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The Peril of Talking About Electricity Affordability

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer

The Peril of Talking About Electricity Affordability