10 Feb 2026
3h 41m

Elon Musk's Banker, Beijing Pours $26B into Robot Boom, How Apollo Dodged SaaSsassination | Ashlee Vance, Vincenzo Landino, Ethan Thornton, Kris Marszalek, Cristóbal Valenzuela, Brad Svrluga, Dayna Grayson

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The podcast explores a range of topics, starting with Michael Grimes' return to Morgan Stanley and its implications for SpaceX's potential IPO, as well as the AI landscape with companies like Cognition and XAI. The hosts discuss Apollo's investment strategy of avoiding software companies due to AI disruption fears, contrasting it with Monday.com's struggles. They analyze the potential SaaSpocalypse, debating whether AI will commoditize software or create new opportunities. The conversation shifts to China's push in humanoid robotics, comparing it to the US approach, and concludes with discussions on labor market trends, the new Ferrari design, and updates from the motorsport world.

Outlines

Part 1: Super Bowl, IPOs, and Market Legends

Part 2: AI Research, Safety, and SaaS Disruption

Part 3: Robotics and Labor Market Shifts

Part 4: Automotive Design and Motorsport Culture

Part 5: Defense Tech and Asymmetric Warfare

Part 6: Consumer AI and Domain Strategy

Part 7: Big Tech Finance and Tactile Innovation

Part 8: Venture Capital and Industrial Rebirth

Part 9: Storytelling and the Future of Space

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