Today’s episode is from The Business – The Times’ flagship podcasts covering business, finance and the economy.

Octopus Energy has gone from market entrant to market leader in just 10 years. Greg Jackson, chief executive and co-founder is at the forefront of this business success story. The secret sauce? It’s nothing to do with energy - it’s the Kraken software that links the company to its customers and suppliers. So how did he do it? Why does he think 'spaghetti stacks' of ancient software are what’s holding so many businesses back? And what plans does he have to float Kraken? From memories of his failed career as a game designer, why corporate life can be addictive - and why he thinks business leaders should be optimistic in a challenging world, Dom and Katie hear his lessons from the frontline.

Presenters:

Dominic O’Connell, columnist and business presenter, Times Radio
Katie Prescott, Technology Business Editor, The Times and host of the Times Tech Podcast

Guest:

Greg Jackson, CEO and co-founder, Octopus Energy

Producer: Miriam Hall

Senior Producer: Julia Johnson

Executive Producer: Kate Ford

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Bonus episode: The ‘secret sauce’ of success - With Octopus Energy CEO, Greg Jackson

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Bonus episode: The ‘secret sauce’ of success - With Octopus Energy CEO, Greg Jackson