This week we welcome Margo Lightburn back to the pod after two years away, and a lot has changed.

Since we last spoke, Margo has retired from teaching yoga and opens up about her complicated, sometimes bitter goodbye to the industry and everything that followed. We talk candidly about grief, including the loss of her mother, undergoing a hysterectomy, and the deeply personal healing journey that ultimately led her to begin writing a book.

We reflect on a time when yoga felt like the end-all, be-all, the constant push for flexibility, the pressure to do more, and how overdoing it quietly led to injury. We talk about teaching from an unhealed place, tending to childhood wounds, and what happens when ambition outpaces care.

As always, the conversation wanders through tangents, hilarious moments, and big questions. We glaze on finding community, the state of the world right now, hot yoga, pelvic floor health, abuse in the industry, and the many ways to go deeper in your healing. We also hear about Margo’s new episodic podcast series coming soon and what leaving the yoga industry helped her reclaim and conquer.

This episode feels less like an interview and more like old friends catching up, losing track of time, telling the truth, and letting the conversation unfold where it wants to go.