In this episode, we talk with Tara Waters.

Tara is a leading voice in legal tech and a lawyer with more than 15 years’ experience at City firms including A&O, Simmons and Ashurst where she was a partner and chief digital officer - during which time she successfully rolled out AI tool Harvey to all of the firm’s 4,000+ lawyers and business services staff around the world.

Tara shares her unique journey from technology to law, highlighting her experiences in legal tech and innovation. She discusses the evolution of legal services, the impact of generative AI, how law firms should assess its ROI and her favourite AI tools on the market.

Tara emphasises the importance of adapting to new technologies, the need for investment in learning and development,and the traits that distinguish great lawyers. She also provides insights into the future of the billable hour model.

Chapters

00:30 Introduction to Tara and Her Journey

03:034 Transition from Technology to Law

06:20 Building a Diverse Legal Practice

09:33 Innovation in Legal Services at Ashurst

12:33 Client-Driven Changes in Legal Tech

14:55 The Evolution of Legal Tech and AI

18:11 Generative AI's Impact on Legal Work

21:05 The Role of AI Assistants in Legal Practice

23:50 Harvey: A Case Study in Legal AI Implementation

27:08 Internal Adoption of AI Tools at Ashurst

30:40 Elevating Voices: The Importance of User Stories

30:58 Gaining Partner Buy-In for Technology Investments

33:20 Measuring ROI: Beyond Cost Savings

36:02 The Evolving Role of Lawyers in the Age of AI

39:36 Rethinking the Billable Hour Model

43:24 Legal AI Tools: Preferences and Industry Trends

48:02 Leading Firms in Legal Tech Innovation

49:31 Career Advice: Confidence and Continuous Learning

54:48 Investing in Learning and Development

56:40 The Value of Knowing When to Pivot

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