Insurance claims, storm chasers, and broken incentives — welcome to the dark side of roofing.

In this episode, John Wilson sits down (again) with Adam Cherup to unpack what really happens behind the scenes in roofing — from “deny, delay, defend” insurance tactics to the storm-chasing playbook that leaves homeowners stuck holding the warranty bag. They also get practical: seasonality, lead gen, cash flow, and what it actually takes to start a roofing business (especially in Florida).

In this episode, we cover:

The Insurance Game: “Deny, delay, defend” — and why carriers aren’t your friend.
Retail vs. Insurance Strategy: Why some roofers push retail first, then litigate the claim after.
How to Win Insurance Work: Xactimate, codes, the paperwork game, and why payouts can double when done right.

🔥 What You’ll Learn:

How contractors can guide homeowners through insurance without waiting months for approvals.
The biggest red flags of storm-chasing contractors (and how people get burned).
Why roofing cash flow can get brutal — and how seasonality + claim delays compound it.
What makes roofing “easy” vs. “hard” depending on your model (subbed installs vs. controlled labor).

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The Dark Side of Roofing: Insurance Scams, Storm Chasers, and Why Homeowners Get Burned

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The Dark Side of Roofing: Insurance Scams, Storm Chasers, and Why Homeowners Get Burned