14 Jan 2026
3h 39m

Microsoft’s Energy Tab, OpenAI Goes Super Bowl, Ellison Makes His Move | Marc Benioff, Brian Chesky, Baiju Bhatt, Gabriel Carafa, Alfred Wahlforss

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The hosts dissect the political and economic implications of AI development, focusing on data centers' impact on power prices and Microsoft's response to political pressure. They analyze Trump's Truth Social posts regarding AI data centers and Microsoft's negotiations to mitigate the political backlash against increasing power prices. The conversation explores the bipartisan opposition to AI, driven by concerns over rising power bills and the lack of direct benefits for local communities. They also speculate on OpenAI's upcoming Super Bowl ad, anticipating a shift towards practical applications of AI for everyday users. Additional topics include the potential IPOs of SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic, and the bankruptcy of Saks Fifth Avenue. The hosts also interview Brian Chesky, CEO of Airbnb, about the company's AI design strategy.

Outlines

Part 1: AI Infrastructure and Political Backlash

Part 2: Corporate Moves and Consumer AI Trends

Part 3: Market Shifts and Cultural Stagnation

Part 4: Profile: The Rise of David Ellison

Part 5: Guest Spotlight: Brian Chesky on Design and AI

Part 6: Space Economy and AetherFlex

Part 7: Future of Mobility and Social Markets

Part 8: Customer Insights and Salesforce Strategy

Part 9: Tech Tidbits and Closing Thoughts

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