20 Dec 2025
1h 3m

Lessons From A Successful Tokenization Project & What Market Structure Reveals About Trump-Linked WLFI’s False Promises: Bits + Bips - Ep. 986

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The podcast features Steve Ehrlich interviewing Mike Cagney, founder and CEO of Figure, about Figure's successful year, IPO, and product-market fit with HELOC loans on the Providence blockchain. Cagney explains HELOCs, their advantages over traditional mortgages, and how blockchain technology enhances efficiency and liquidity. He discusses the challenges of tokenization, the importance of DeFi, and Figure's use of its stablecoin, Yields. The podcast also includes a second interview between Steve Ehrlich and Jason Brett, who discuss the complexities of applying market structure regulations to decentralized finance, focusing on World Liberty Financial and the ethical considerations of a president's involvement in the crypto industry.

Outlines

Part 1: HELOCs, Blockchain Efficiency

Part 2: DeFi Regulation, Banking Future

Part 3: Tokenization, Corporate Vision

Part 4: World Liberty Financial Analysis

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