Contextualizing Foreword

The user "cdt" wrote to me:

Please put this in a top-level post. I don't agree (or rather I don't feel it's this simple), but I really enjoyed reading your two rejoinders here.

I don't normally do top level posts because I don't tend to believe that its possible to change people's minds for the better if they aren't exactly and precisely posed to seek an answer (or whatever (its more complicated than that)). But when someone who seems to be a person reading and writing in good faith says such a thing should happen and its cheap to play along... why not! <3

On November 23rd, 2025, four days before Thanksgiving, Ruby posted "I'll Be Sad To Lose The Puzzles" that was full of a wistful sadness about winning The Singularity Game, ending involuntarily death, and ushering in a period of utopian prosperity for humanity (as if humanity was somehow collectively likely to win The Singularity Game).

If you have NOT read that post, then the rest of the post won't make much sense.

I pulled out a particular quote to respond to the mood with my contrary feeling, which is primarily grief, and sadness in [...]

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Outline:

(00:16) Contextualizing Foreword

(02:03) My First Reply, To Ruby

(05:31) A Sort Of A Rebuttal

(07:43) A Followup Reply To brambleboys Rebuttal

(14:40) In Closing

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First published:
December 16th, 2025

Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4nzXLxF9sCPqkght2/non-scheming-saints-whether-human-or-digital-might-be

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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

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“Non-Scheming Saints (Whether Human Or Digital) Might Be Shirking Their Governance Duties, And, If True, It Is Probably An Objective Tragedy” by JenniferRM

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“Non-Scheming Saints (Whether Human Or Digital) Might Be Shirking Their Governance Duties, And, If True, It Is Probably An Objective Tragedy” by JenniferRM