17:I[66739,["/_next/static/chunks/0.3dg.jzl0xwf.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8","/_next/static/chunks/0skdv12y78fnh.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8","/_next/static/chunks/10dnvbzcepzg2.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8","/_next/static/chunks/0w-9dtq49e_fk.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8","/_next/static/chunks/1331nw5i_3lcb.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8","/_next/static/chunks/053zyoym-_i67.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8"],"default"] 19:I[38632,["/_next/static/chunks/0qqtp3r0h7kah.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8","/_next/static/chunks/0iukvycbd42rl.js?dpl=dpl_Hst3gh7MhZkzS6iaknkgT6LpsCH8"],"IconMark"] 18:T4ba,Many countries are frustrated with U.N. climate conferences. While some countries urgently want to transition away from fossil fuels — the main driver of global warming — others are blocking that language from climate agreements. Today on the show, Emily talks with Julia Simon from NPR’s climate desk. She takes us to Brazil and introduces us to a group of countries that are trying something new.

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"A Very, Very Big Deal." Countries Take On Fossil Fuels

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"A Very, Very Big Deal." Countries Take On Fossil Fuels