15 Dec 2025

Is Privacy A Winnable Battle? | Andy Yen, Founder of Proton

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In this Bankless episode, Ryan Sean Adams interviews Andy Yen, CEO of Proton, about digital privacy in the age of AI. They discuss the addictive nature of AI, data privacy concerns with tools like ChatGPT, and the potential for AI to exploit personal weaknesses. Andy Yen argues that AI accelerates existing data collection models, making privacy a critical civil liberty against corporate power. The conversation explores the risks of data breaches, the role of encryption, and the EU's chat control legislation. Andy highlights Proton's approach to privacy with its AI, Lumo, and advocates for a business model that prioritizes user privacy over profit, emphasizing the need for a new generation of tech-savvy legislators to protect digital rights.

Outlines

Part 1: AI, Data Privacy, and Corporate Power

Part 2: Business Models and Encryption

Part 3: Privacy in Chat Apps and Mobile Phones

Part 4: Digital Civil Liberties and Balancing Security

Part 5: Practical Steps and the Future of Privacy

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