Why the next AI frontier is phone calls, with Beside CEO Maxime Germain

In this episode of ACCESS, Ellis and Alex discuss current tech topics, including OpenAI's "Code Red" response to competition from Gemini and Instagram and Spotify's new algorithm control features. They debate whether ChatGPT should be more personalized and engaging, touching on the culture clash within AI labs between those focused on AGI and those prioritizing product engagement. Later, Maxime Germain from Beside joins the conversation to discuss building AI tools for the "real economy," focusing on users who aren't traditional knowledge workers. Maxime shares insights into Beside's design philosophy, target audience, and the unique challenges of rebuilding telephony infrastructure for AI-driven communication. The group explores the potential for AI to enhance human interactions and the importance of capturing unique data contexts, like phone conversations, for AI applications.