09 Dec 2025
1h 8m

Plain English BEST OF: The Antisocial Century

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Plain English with Derek Thompson

Derek Thompson hosts "Plain English" and interviews Nicholas Epley, a behavioral science professor, about his research on social interaction and solitude. Epley discusses the paradox that humans are social beings who often choose isolation, detailing experiments that show people are happier when they connect with others, even strangers, despite anticipating the opposite. They explore why people underestimate the benefits of social interaction, the importance of voice in communication, and how to cultivate social fitness by making small, positive interactions a habit. Epley's research has personally influenced him to prioritize connecting with others, emphasizing that frequent, small interactions can significantly improve well-being.

Outlines

Part 1: Podcast Intro & The Antisocial Century

Part 2: Impacts of Isolation

Part 3: The Paradox of Social Isolation

Part 4: Voice, Presence, and Social Fitness

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