Marty sits down with Steve Barbour before the first Nakamoto Forum debate to talk about energy, mining, and replacing the US Dollar.

Steve on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SGBarbour

Upstream Data: https://blog.upstreamdata.ca/

7:30 - Bitcoin dev conflict of interest
19:18 - Bitcoin reaching maturity
21:01 - Russian mining
25:37 - Fiat IOUs
28:30 - The state of US mining
34:25 - Will "Coal" Cole
38:09 - Upstream's progress since Steve's last pod
47:06 - Hydro is better for portability
55:31 - New design
59:53 - Is coal the future?
1:04:48 - Hydrocarbons debate
1:08:33 - Lizard men
1:10:57 - Mock the rulers
1:19:03 - Fiat dying
1:25:01 - Wrapping up