03 Nov 2025
1h 19m

660: James Clear (Live at Ohio University!) - The Four Laws of Behavior Change, Systems vs Goals, Building Better Habits, Mastering the Two-Minute Rule, Having a Great Marriage, & The Plateau of Latent Potential

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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

Ryan Hawk interviews James Clear, author of "Atomic Habits," in front of a live audience at Ohio University. They discuss strategies for designing one's life to inevitably exceed goals, emphasizing the importance of environment over willpower. Clear shares insights from his college experience, his writing process for "Atomic Habits," and the significance of building genuine relationships. He stresses the importance of systems over goals, finding enjoyment in the process, and adapting to change. The conversation also covers Clear's approach to marriage, the value of reflection, and practical advice for applying habit-building principles to leadership and personal growth.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction and Early Influences

Part 2: Systems, Environment, and Habits

Part 3: Relationships and Clear Thinking

Part 4: Audience Q&A and Practical Advice

Part 5: Closing Remarks

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