31 Oct 2025
42m

Michael Liebreich on a "pragmatic climate reset"

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Volts

In this episode of Volts, host David Roberts interviews Michael Liebreich about the recent trend of "climate reset" proposals. They discuss why these proposals are emerging, with Liebreich suggesting a frustration with the existing climate consensus. They critique Tony Blair's climate reset piece, which favors expensive solutions like direct air capture over cheaper options like wind and solar. Liebreich attributes this to a lack of STEM knowledge among influential voices and the spread of misinformation. The conversation explores the political dynamics, the role of big business, and the challenges of communicating climate solutions effectively. They debate the pace of EV adoption, the potential of electrochemistry, and the need to frame climate action as a positive, growth-oriented opportunity rather than a fear-based imperative. They disagree on whether fear or positive messaging is more effective in motivating climate action, with Roberts emphasizing the need to counter disinformation and appeal to emotions, while Liebreich advocates for a more rational and responsible approach.

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