29 Oct 2025
47m

Are Two C.E.O.s Better Than One? (Update)

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Freakonomics Radio

In this episode of Freakonomics Radio, Stephen Dubner explores the concept of co-CEOs in large companies, revisiting a previous episode with updated information. The episode features insights from Marc Feigen, a CEO advisor who advocates for co-CEOs based on his research indicating higher shareholder returns in companies with dual leadership. Dubner also interviews Jim Balsillie, former co-CEO of Research in Motion (BlackBerry), who shares his experiences and perspectives on the benefits and challenges of a co-CEO structure. The discussion includes a contrasting viewpoint from Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, who argues against the co-CEO model, emphasizing the need for a single, decisive leader. Additionally, the episode examines research on pair programming to draw parallels with the co-CEO concept, and features the co-founders of Atlassian, who share their positive experiences with the model.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction and Benefits

Part 2: Case Studies

Part 3: Contrarian Views and Alternatives

Part 4: Future Outlook

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