22 Oct 2025
29m

213 - No Water, No Moon

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Secular Buddhism

In this episode of the Secular Buddhism podcast, Noah Ruschetta explores the concept of Zen koans, emphasizing that they are not riddles to be solved but tools to train individuals to be comfortable with uncertainty. The discussion revolves around humanity's addiction to certainty and how koans can help embrace confusion, leading to deeper insights and a shift from seeking answers to appreciating questions. Using the koan of Chiyono, the nun, Ruschetta illustrates how koans prepare individuals for real-life moments of groundlessness, encouraging listeners to sit with uncertainty and be present without needing to fix or understand everything, ultimately fostering resilience and awareness.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction to Koans

Part 2: Koan Example & Interpretation

Part 3: Application to Real Life

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