16 Oct 2025
22m

Brené Brown & Reid Hoffman on the skills every leader needs now

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Masters of Scale

This episode of Masters of Scale features Reid Hoffman interviewing Brené Brown about courageous leadership. Brown defines courageous leadership as a combination of self-awareness, discipline, accountability, and humility, emphasizing that leading is about serving others. She argues that courage is a teachable skill, highlighting the importance of aligning actions with values, staying in integrity and vulnerability, and recognizing personal "armor" or self-protective behaviors triggered by fear. Brown also differentiates between cognitive and affective empathy, advocating for cognitive empathy as the source code for relationships and democracy. The conversation further explores the significance of emotional granularity, systems thinking, and anticipatory awareness in effective leadership, particularly in navigating the complexities and rapid changes brought about by AI.

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