25 Sept 2025
52m
From Vibe Coding to Vibe Researching: OpenAI’s Mark Chen and Jakub Pachocki
The a16z Show
In this episode of the a16z Podcast, Anjney Midha and Sarah Wang interview OpenAI's Chief Scientist Jakub Pachocki and Chief Research Officer Mark Chen about GPT-5, the company's advancements in AI reasoning, and their pursuit of an automated researcher. They discuss the shift towards economically relevant benchmarks for AI evaluation, the continuous improvements from reinforcement learning (RL), and the development of new codecs for real-world coding. The conversation explores the balance between fundamental research and product development, the importance of fostering a creative and resilient research culture, and the ongoing significance of compute in AI progress.
Outlines
Part 1: GPT-5 Introduction and Evaluation
Part 2: Reinforcement Learning and Coding
Part 3: Qualities of Researchers and Research Organization
Part 4: Balancing Research and Product Development
Part 5: Long-Term Vision and Collaboration
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