11 Sept 2025
51m

The Crisis That United Humanity—and Why It Matters for AI

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Your Undivided Attention

In this episode of "Your Undivided Attention," hosts Tristan and Aza interview environmental scientist Susan Solomon about the Montreal Protocol, a landmark international agreement that successfully addressed the ozone hole crisis. Solomon, who was part of the Antarctic research team that assessed the ozone hole in the 1980s, shares her firsthand experiences and insights into how the agreement was achieved. The discussion covers the science behind the ozone hole, the economic and political challenges involved in regulating the chemicals responsible, and the key factors that enabled global coordination. Solomon emphasizes the importance of making environmental problems personal, perceptible, and solvable with practical solutions. The hosts and Solomon draw parallels between the ozone hole crisis and current challenges related to AI, highlighting the need for public engagement, international cooperation, and a commitment to finding alternative paths. The conversation also touches on other successful environmental initiatives, such as the Clean Air Act, and underscores the importance of incremental progress and adaptive frameworks in addressing complex global issues.

Outlines

Part 1: Ozone Crisis: Discovery and Response

Part 2: Lessons for AI Regulation

Part 3: Broader Environmental Successes

Part 4: Conclusion

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