10 Sept 2025
58m

Stephanie Ruhle and Tom Saenz: Why Aren't People Freaking Out?

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The Bulwark Podcast

Tim Miller hosts Stephanie Ruhle to discuss the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, Trump's involvement, and the media's coverage, followed by a conversation on economic disruptions, inflation, and the tech industry's relationship with Trump. They critique Tim Cook's behavior at a tech dinner with Trump and explore why business leaders aren't more critical of Trump's actions compared to their reactions to progressive policies. Later, Tim interviews Tom Saenz about the Supreme Court's decision on racial profiling by ICE, highlighting a specific case of a U.S. citizen detained while filming ICE agents, and discussing the broader implications for immigrant rights and political retribution.

Outlines

Part 1: Epstein, Trump, and Media

Part 2: Economy and Tech

Part 3: Political Reality and Supreme Court

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