Today’s show:

On an upbeat and optimistic new TWiST, Jason and Alex are debating why any new innovation or technology gets hit with a wave of bitter cynicism.

PLUS Jason defends the government taking shares of Intel, explains the importance of interoperability, and predicts how AirBnB’s Joe Gebbia will upgrade the US government’s website design.

All that PLUS thoughts on the Netskope IPO, Perplexity offering publishers actual revenue share, a deep dive on the new AI-based PAC, thoughts on open-source LLMs, and much much much more.

Timestamps:

(0:00) Cynicism vs. Optimism and why Jason thinks cynics go after any interesting new technology

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(14:37) Why Jason supports the Intel deal but worries it will become a trend

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(22:00) Show Continues…

(27:02) Is it hypocritical to oppose socialist grocery stores but support the Intel deal? Jason says NO.

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(30:58) What does xAI hope to get out of this OpenAI/Apple lawsuit? Jason and Alex theorize…

(39:12) Why Jason thinks interoperability is so important and how App Stores OUGHT to work

(41:12) How AirBnB’s Joe Gebbia could potentially upgrade the US government’s websites

(49:27) What does Netskope do exactly? SASE?! Producer Claude explains…

(58:32) Alex and Jason celebrate Perplexity rev sharing with publishers

(01:10:02) Jason’s thoughts on the Leading the Future PAC, and US AI policy

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xAI’s App Store lawsuit, Intel shares vs. grocery stores, and Netskope’s IPO | E2169

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xAI’s App Store lawsuit, Intel shares vs. grocery stores, and Netskope’s IPO | E2169