Wang Gungwu: Why the World Looks Like the World Today?

Gita Wirjawan interviews Professor Wang Gungwu, a historian, about his background, growing up as a sojourner waiting to return to China, and his eventual settlement in Malaya. They discuss the shaping of national identity, the importance of history for younger generations, and Wang's optimism stemming from human adaptability. The conversation explores the evolution of human organization from families to civilizations, the differences between civilizations and cultures, and the impact of written language on Chinese unity. Wang shares his insights on Chinese dynasties, comparing China and India, and the transitions from the Manchu dynasty to nationalist and communist China. They delve into Mao Zedong's continuous revolution, Deng Xiaoping's reforms, and Xi Jinping's leadership, before shifting to Southeast Asia, its regional identity, and Indonesia's potential role. The podcast concludes with Wang's advice to younger generations: to always want to learn, be curious, and share knowledge.