The Nihilistic War In Sudan

This Fresh Air episode features an interview with Anne Applebaum, a journalist from The Atlantic, discussing her reporting trips to Sudan and the implications of the decline in the liberal world order. Applebaum recounts her experiences traveling through Sudan, witnessing the civil war between the Sudanese Army and the Rapid Support Forces, and the resulting humanitarian crisis. She describes the destruction, displacement, and lack of international aid, highlighting the role of regional powers and the impact of the withdrawal of the U.S. and the dysfunction of the UN. The conversation also touches on the war in Ukraine, with Applebaum expressing concerns about the U.S. potentially switching sides and the importance of maintaining pressure on Russia to end the conflict.