30 Jul 2025
2h 7m

#2357 - Sarko Gergerian

Podcast cover

The Joe Rogan Experience

In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe interviews Sarko Gergerian, a law enforcement lieutenant and psychedelic-assisted therapist, about his journey into psychedelic therapy and his views on drug policy. They discuss the potential of MDMA and other psychedelics for treating PTSD and addiction, particularly among first responders, and criticize the government's Schedule 1 classification of these substances. They explore the history of drug prohibition, the war on drugs, and the role of public perception and political influence in shaping drug laws. They also touch on the importance of community, harm reduction, and the need for a more empathetic approach to drug policy, as well as the potential benefits and risks of decriminalization and safe supply programs.

Outlines

Part 1: Introduction and Personal Journey

Part 2: Historical Context and Drug Policy

Part 3: Objectivity, Liberty, and Control

Part 4: Solutions and Paradigm Shift

Part 5: Spirituality and Community

Part 6: Integration and Community Policing

Sign in to continue reading, translating and more.

Open full episode in Podwise