The AI-native startup: 5 products, 7-figure revenue, 100% AI-written code | Dan Shipper (co-founder/CEO of Every)

In this interview, Lenny Rachitsky speaks with Dan Shipper, CEO of Avery, about leveraging AI in business. Dan shares his contrarian views on AI, including its potential to reshore American jobs and the underutilization of Claude Code by non-coders. He details how Avery operates at the cutting edge of AI, with engineers not manually coding and a dedicated AI operations head. Dan emphasizes the importance of CEOs using AI to drive adoption within companies and introduces the concept of the "allocation economy," where management skills become more valuable. He also touches on the company's unique "Sip Seed Round" fundraising approach, balancing growth with creative freedom. The conversation covers AI tools, team operations, product development, and the future of work in an AI-first world.