106. 对谈KK，了解我们合作新书《2049》的幕后故事

This podcast episode features a conversation between two individuals, one of whom is the author of a new book titled "2049. The Future of Ten Thousand Days," co-authored with futurist Kevin Kelly (KK). The discussion, recorded at KK's studio in San Francisco, delves into the book's origins, core ideas about the future (particularly concerning AI), and the creative process behind it. They explore the potential of China in leveraging technology, the concept of "coolness" in innovation, and the implications of AI development, including DeepSeek. The conversation further covers the importance of open-source intelligence, the need for US-China collaboration, the future of work and education in the age of AI, and the potential for AI to act as personal coaches. They also touch on the long-term horizon of 25 years, emphasizing the importance of imagination and planning for various scenarios in technology and society.